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Originally Posted by nomadking
So how many of them are unsafe and only have been implemented in the EU in the previous few years to that report(2014)?
Still doesn't change the fact that chlorinated washing was banned by the EU because it does a BETTER job than their alternative. Chlorinated washing meant that bad abattoirs meant the post-wash chicken met the required standards, whereas better abattoirs didn't need such a good treatment to meet those same standards. If chlorinated washing was allowed, then the post-wash standard of the chickens from the better abattoirs would be BETTER than it is now.
An example of the UK and EU being free and easy with food welfare is in relation to animal slaughter. Kosher and Halal slaughter is held to lesser standards. Although UK law insists the religious slaughter only takes place to provide meat for those religions, how much of that is followed?
Are Muslims consuming 15% of UK meat? I assume the 100% includes Pork, so their non-pork consumption is much higher than 15%.
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Again, random murmurings with no actual documented evidence to support your argument
'It all comes down to money and efficiency of space. The majority of farmers do care about rearing their birds, but as profit margins can be very tight, animal welfare is sidelined to keep costs down. In the EU, cost is also important, but the law means it can’t come at the expense of the birds’ basic welfare. There is a legal minimum amount of space, lighting and ventilation for EU poultry-rearing houses.
The more space the birds have to move around in, the fewer can be housed in a single area, which in turn has an effect on production costs. As there are no laws governing this in the US, the birds can be crammed in tightly so they have limited movement, with little light or ventilation. This reduces production costs but increases the risks of disease and contamination in a flock.
Washing the chickens in a strong chlorine solution (20-50 parts per million of chlorine) provides a brash, cost-effective method of killing any microorganisms on the surface of the bird, particularly bacteria such as species of Salmonella and Campylobacter. This helps prevent the meat being contaminated with microbes during slaughter and evisceration.'
So, a country where there is no minimum standard for poultry welfare, vs the EU which has said standards and you're OK with this? and best of all Chlorine washing as it's a process doesn't have to be included on the packaging....
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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth
I think she'll decide it's too much like hard work and will find a way to stay in. I only hope that if we do end up staying it won't be on terms eye wateringly worse that those we have at the moment.
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Yup, regardless of what happens 17.4 million people in this country have collectively wasted a mountain of money.
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Originally Posted by Brunel
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Won't disagree on any of that.