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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

try telling expats in France/Spain/Italy it's a negative impact, and the brits who travel quite freely for work currently.

travel state your sources please
Food standards, you completely ignore the recent American trade deal

What EU products are substandard ?

Right to reside/freedom to work is not a negative. the you've failed to present any tangible evidence that we would of had them.

I said "On balance". Expats in Spain etc are a benefit to those countries, not the UK. They go there with money to spend, whereas others come here with nothing and spend OUR money. They are not all living on the streets, so where did all the houses they are living in, come from. Who didn't get a home because somebody from Romania turned up and was given one instead?

Are you saying that the compensation schemes that the EU has suddenly dreamed up, doesn't add to costs?


We now(if it happens) get to choose the food standards. The EU has insisted on setting the UK's food standards, but one example(that I can remember) from the past is an issue with French UHT milk. It was ruled that we have to accept a standard lower than we insisted from UK farmers.

There is no US trade deal in place.

President of the UK's National Farmer's Union (NFU) Minette Batters said that while Mr Johnson was correct in saying chlorine-washed chicken and hormone-fed beef was "safe" to eat, there were other factors that needed considering.
"The difference is welfare standards and environmental protection standards," she told BBC Radio 4's Today programme.

Are "welfare standards and environmental protection standards" any better in Romania etc? Eg Horsemeat scandal.

Ms Batters said chicken farms in the US were not required, for example, to include windows in their sheds or clean out in between flocks.

Red Tractor chicken scheme members will be required to have windows fitted in all buildings which house birds by October 2020.

Sounds like EU(including the UK) farmers also don't have to have windows.

But the practice has been banned in the EU since 1997, where only washing with cold air or water is allowed.The EU argues that chlorine washes could increase the risk of bacterial-based diseases such as salmonella on the grounds that dirty abattoirs with sloppy standards would rely on it as a decontaminant rather than making sure their basic hygiene protocols were up to scratch.

So the EU admits it's own abattoirs were not "up to scratch" and that chlorine washes are BETTER than cold air and water. What matters is the safety of the end result. What's the betting that the "welfare standards and environmental protection standards" came long after 1997? It's just a ruse to block imports.

How come in 2017 the US exported more than $3bn worth of chicken, and Brazil more than twice that. Not sure Brazil's standards are going to be that high.