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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees
and the jobs the Brits don't want
A direct quote from your post, and when the above is allowed to fester in a society those who are doing the jobs that other nations don't want end up mistreated.
I have seen this first hand in multiple countries. Singapore, China and Australia to name three.
How would you propose that the UK ensures that this doesn't happen?
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What are you on about? Yes, there are jobs that the Brits tend not to want to do, such as fruit picking. We must not create an immigration policy that does not take into account the need for employers to employ people from overseas where it is impossible to recruit people from within the UK. That stands to reason, doesn't it? All I am saying is that we don't want to let people in who are going to steal the jobs that our own people with the appropriate skills are willing and able to do - that simply drives down wages and creates unemployment.
I don't see that constituting mistreatment. There are separate laws to cover that, anyway.
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Originally Posted by Hugh
Could you give some examples of these "restrictive EU regulations", please, which business can be liberated from, and the perceived benefits to consumers?
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The Acquired Rights Directive (the basis for our TUPE Regulations)
The Working Time Directive
The General Data Protection Regulations...
To name but three. All of these regulations take a sledgehammer to crack a nut. The basic principlefor each might have merit, but then they have so much bureaucracy and jargonistic language around them that the whole thing becomes a drag.
Most employers do not understand legislation from the EU and need an army of lawyers to interpret it. UK law can be an ass, but it was never like this.
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
You're on fire, Hugh! Yesterday you posted a question which the respondent could not answer and you've done the same today.
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No, he's not, and I've just answered it. Sometimes it can be tiresome having to explain the obvious, that's all.
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Originally Posted by Carth
and the jobs the Brits don't want
Well if I was unemployed I can tell you a job I wouldn't want, and that's one of those 16 hours a week 'agency' type jobs
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Well, given that we have close to full employment in this country and only a small proportion of them are zero hours contracts, you wouldn't have to accept such employment.
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees
But it's OK for a migrant to do it? and whilst they are doing that you would be doing what? waiting ever hopefully?
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Yes it is, and they want to do it what's more. What's your solution? Who do you think should be doing these jobs?
If you are going to keep criticising like this, you need to come up with alternative solutions. But you don't...
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Originally Posted by Carth
No not at all, stop picking holes where there are none. These zero hour contracts should be outlawed IMO
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I disagree with you there. However, some employers have been abusing this, which is why we need to ensure that unfair practices are outlawed.
Zero hours contracts (which we used to call 'casual employment) can be useful to both employer and employee as they provide flexibility. However, they are not suitable for those who want stable hours and a stable income.