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Old 26-02-2019, 14:16   #7869
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Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by nomadking View Post
Nowhere near the same sort of situation.


Imagine a situation where a trade union threatened a strike. The Employer wouldn't take negotiations seriously unless they were prepared to go on strike, and if that failed, actually went on strike. Both sides suffer.
Another bad analogy. If you strike, you still have a job to go back to after the strike.

A better version would be if you resigned from your job with no redundancy payments and the challenge of finding similarly rewarding employment at short notice.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter View Post
Just watched a programme from Channel 5, it said that cash point machine theft/fraud has trebled and 90% of it is being done by Romanians. They interviewed them and was told that it is either used for drugs or to send home to their poor families back home.

It was on the news the other day that many of them live outdoors too.

The ugly side of free movement in action. What on Earth did they expect when they allowed these poorer countries to join?
You need to challenge what you watch more.

https://fullfact.org/europe/over-her...-90-atm-crime/

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The claim that 90% of crime at ATMs (or cash machines) is the work of Romanian gangs has often been repeated in the press as far back as early 2012 (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-30m-year.html).

Conclusion

While both parts of the Express's claim on the prevalance of Romanian crime in the UK have some evidence underpinning them, both need to be carefully understood. A former head of the police unit tasked with tackling ATM crime has indeed estimated that 92% of fraud at cash machines is committed by Romanian nationals (although the Express also threw Bulgarian nationals into the mix), we don't know the basis for this assertion, nor whether or not it still applies.

Similarly, almost 28,000 Romanians have been arrested in the past five years according to Metropolitan Police figures, but only a small fraction of these were on suspicion of "serious" offences.
Until there is some objective, verifiable evidence to support this, this is just hearsay and conjecture click-bait.
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