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Old 19-02-2019, 08:33   #7703
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Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth View Post
As a Leave supporter, I am deeply disappointed by the current state of affairs. With just 5 weeks to go, British exporters to Europe don't even know how to label their products nor what the tariffs might be. Just imagine that - the ad-hoc labelling business will have a Brexit fuelled boom whilst British business is left in turmoil.

This stems directly from TM's position as a Remainer, jabbed from the side by the arch-Remain Chancellor. It's only short of criminal negligence because there are no laws to cover this kind of negligence of office.

Our day 1 position entering the A50 era should have been on a no deal basis and then see what could have been done to "improve" on this position. Businesses would not too eventually have taken this as the certainty that they require; the guvmin could have instituted a tax-friendly scheme to cover businesses that met the no-deal preparation criteria should their expenditure have become nugatory as the result of any deal.

Some Remainers in this thread have pointed out that the EU could only be expected to negotiate with their interests first and that the Leavers should not be castigating the EU for being unreasonable. Whilst I have seen this sometimes as being apologist for the EU, the truth is that the Remainers have been right in this regard.

It is thus a great pity that the UK guvmin didn't take the same hard line approach. The EU had it's "ever closer union" mantra and the "4 pillars" to follow, so discouraging other would be defectors; the UK had £39 billion and a market of 65 million to wave in front of the EU's federalist eyes.

The ultimate insult, and which makes us a laughing stock, is to have allowed the perfidious Irish Varadkar to wave the GFA in front of us whereas his true intent was to protect the Irish economy. Sure, he would see that as a duty to Ireland - protect his country first; but our politicians never called him out for that perfidy. Talk about the tail wagging the dog and getting away with it, perhaps.

As to our Parliament - the breakaway Labour 7 are arch-Remainers who have mixed disillusionment with Labour's stance on Brexit with institutional anti-Semitism in the party and Corbyn in particular. Likewise, the likes of Dominic Grieve in the Conservative Party who have set out to thwart the Referendum result by use of parliamentary devices have only served to weaken our position in negotiating with the EU; they are the enemy within. Just imagine, those idiots in Parliament have voted against "no deal"; May had the opportunity of waving the £39 billion in front of the EU taken away as a credible threat because the EU will just call her bluff having made their assessment of what the UK Parliament could do to Brexit.

The ultimate irony would be if Brexit is stopped by a small parliamentary majority (for that is what it would be). The Remain bleaters pray in aid the margin narrowness the 52/48 Referendum result (1 million majority); they'll hypocritically hail as a democratic victory a parliamentary majority of 5 or 10 to Remain or water down Brexit.

And it's all TM's fault.
It stems from May trying to do everything without consulting parliament. Starting with holding a GE. Then keeping things secret, not sharing information with parliament, such as the impact assessment of Brexit.

So you have the blinkered leading the deliberately blinded. There is never going to be a good outcome in those circumstances. May has embraced Leaving the EU with the fervour of the converted. If she truly were still a Remainer at heart, she would have been looking at ways to stop leaving, which would be a public vote on the deal, with the inclusion of remain as an option.

Instead she will see the split in Labour as a victory, with possibly losing a few Tory MPs as a price worth paying for the Tory parties future cohesion based on leaving the EU regardless.

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