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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees
Ok, let's play the scenario out further.
How long do you think Corbyn would remain as leader IF a no deal exit occurred?
Personally, I think he would be gone sharpish. Let's say Labour manage to bring David Milliband back in (or someone of his ilk)
The Tories would be out of power for the next > 20 years
All political parties primary concern is to be the governing party for as long as possible.
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Teresa May just confirms that even in the event of No Deal we would still have to legally pay monies to the EU.
Reese-Mogg probably now probably turned Crimson as his champagne is repeating on him
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Very short term viewpoint but probably not wrong 
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If you would like to provide the NET figures to show that overall that EEA EEA : OMS EEA : NMS migration is of negative fiscal value.
Also, if you can provide the NET figures for Native and Non-EEA
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This information has already been provided further back in the thread. The figures show that we generally make a profit out of having immigrants here, but if we limit ourselves to a better quality of them, this profit could be increased. I, however, don't accept these figures as they simply look at what they take out and what they put in.
The bigger picture is that even if they come here and work, pay taxes and don't claim any benefits, they could have taken a job that an existing person living here could have done. Eventually, if not immediately, this means that a person who would have found employment will remain on benefits. When this is taken into consideration, the so called profit is probably extinguished.
Other matters include the presence of immigrants lowering wages (they will often work for less because our minimum wage is a fortune to them). They also put pressure on doctors, schools etc. With regards to housing, their presence leads to market forces pushing up house prices and rent inflation and, consequently, homelessness and inadequate housing.
Limiting immigration to areas such as skill shortage areas, hard to fill posts etc with decent people who have demonstrated that they can conduct themselves in an acceptable manner will go a long way towards the resentment that more and more people are having towards immigrants to the UK. I am of the opinion that this is the reason most people voted to leave the EU (above sovereignty and everything else).Even the most did hard professional anti racists that I know broadly agree with this. One (a left wing old hippie) recently said to me that he didnt like the way that his community was being changed by the sheer number of newcomers.
An Asian taxi driver once said to me that "they' were sick of the poles coming in as they were stealing their fares and that there wouldn't be any jobs for Asian people before long". I just stayed silent and had a wry smile to myself.