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Originally Posted by Mick
Except if it's JRM and his kids or Boris.... 
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Some people just do not get it - people voted to leave the EU because they actually want to leave the EU in it's entirety, leaving meant exactly that to me - no deal all the way, we do not need to be in a 10% Economic bubble when the other 90% of it, is outside of EU, with rest of the world and we do not need to pay a con job membership fee to boot...  |
You voted to leave the EU without any idea of what that may mean to the country, actually let me rephrase that you don't care what happens to the country. You just want to be out of the EU, well, you may get what you want. But lets hope you're right. Because if you're wrong, you and your ilk possibly may have screwed this country up for future generations to come. But hey, not that you care about the future generations is it? It's just about you....
Several studies show short-mid term pain with long term potential pain too. Yet, funnily enough there's nothing showing long term benefit, I wonder why that is? Before you start your usual ranting about how you don't care about what studies say, and they're wrong, perhaps instead of being the equivalent of an ostrich with it's head in the sand or a child with it's fingers in it's ears going 'la la la la, can't hear you' perhaps, just perhaps be open to the thought that these studies could be right. After all, as a remainer (or remoaner depending on the level of childishness people may wish to stoop too) I'm prepared to accept that the exit may indeed be best thing to happen to the UK show me some evidence that supports it and hey i might even change my mind. But right here, right now all the evidence suggests we're about to take a very dangerous path.
To come back to another point you keep raising regarding people fighting and dying for democracy. I admire you for your respect of our service personnel most of us have exactly the same respect and a great deal of us on this board are at an age where we lost grandparents (and some even parents) to the horrors of conflict.
However whilst we should never forget the sacrifice people made, there comes a time when it shouldn't be used as an emotive battle cry to implement policy.
We've moved on as a world, we, as human beings are strongest and produce the greatest results when we work together, There's numerous example of this the ISS, Channel Tunnel to name just two. Brexit means to many people a step backwards not just economically but also as a society.
The British Empire and it's ideology died many many years ago. Many people who voted leave seem to think the departure from the EU will reinvigorate this, quite simply, it won't
Your 10% economic bubble without 90% is out of it is also completely wrong but tbh I dont have time right now to find the figures
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Originally Posted by Pierre
You’re late to the party with this particular line of argument.
A so called “Hard Brexit” (although that term didn’t exist at the time) is what was on offer at the referendum.
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Really, source please?