[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Do we upsurp democracy every time we have a general election ? Soon be 2019, 3 years since the Brexit vote, the electorate and opinions change, they are probably a lot more informed now than they were during the campaign of lies.
[SEPH]: Don't be silly. GEs are scheduled or forced; not brought about by the whims of campaigners. As to your second sentence, that is the Remainer's plea; test the 1st referendum (in the hoip of overturning it).

Hate and division seems to be the bright new future, I despair at the way the country is going, and not just because of Brexit. Poverty is increasing as are the number of homeless dying. Austerity and selfish attitude of many has taken its toll. Brexit is going to make things worse I'm afraid with an increasing rich/poor divide. Areas of the country that benefitted from EU help ie. most outside the SE, will be hit hard. Boris and Jacob will be ok though...
[SEPH]: Why wouldn't the guvmin allocate the regional fund equivalent after Brexit? You'll have a cynical answer, but I wouldn't expect the guvmin to stiff the people of who voted for Brexit.

Anyway, let's have a Brexit armistice for Xmas ! Peace and goodwill to all men and all that cobblers ! I'm off for a walk in the sunshine to desperately try and think of happy things
[SEPH]: Best wishes to you.

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Originally Posted by jfman

It wasn’t binding. It was unconstitutional, and unfortunate, for Cameron to give that impression. No matter how many people believed it has no legal effect.

Democracy can never usurp democracy in our Parliamentary system. It’s impossible for a second vote to be unlawful if this Parliament enables it.

When the government funds a pamphlet and gives a commitment, then it has to deliver that commitment. If you think it's unconstitutional, please explain exactly how. If you are on the old chestnut that unless there was a law passed prior to the referendum making its result binding, then all you're doing is arguing the toss for the sake of it. The government gave a commitment to implement the decision and this decision was duly passed into law - something you seem not to have taken into account.

I've been very clear that it's people like you who are using democracy to usurp democracy. That's a very different thing from what you've said. It's people who do the usurping - much like McDonnell and Corbyn are trying to do to bring a Communist state into being.