16-12-2018, 13:39
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
Theresa May has denied many things before and then gone on to do exactly what she denied. We may not instantly recall her denying that she would not hold an election but the memory of her saying that the vote on her deal would not be postponed is still fresh.
I think Brexiters need to accept the hard facts that there is a possibility of a second referendum...and also that they may not win it. I don't want another referendum to happen but I believe the chances of it happening are steadily growing as shown by recent developments.
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Regarding a 2nd. Referendum:
It would only happen in limited circumstances.
1. TM goes turncoat. Unlikely as it can’t be forced by any constitutional method other than primary legislation.
2. A new government takes over and makes the necessary primary legislation.
Let’s analyse #2. It is possible that the Tories would lose a vote of confidence with TM as PM. In that case the Tories would have 21 days to find a new leader. If a Leaver, would win a vote of confidence; if a Remainer, then anything could happen at the whim of Labour, the DUP and the ERG. If a ‘leaving’ PM, then there will be no 2nd referendum. If a ‘remain’ PM then a 2nd referendum is likely because there would be time to introduce the legislation.
If there is a ‘leave’ Tory PM, there would still be parliamentary chaos if the Remain Tories stiff their party. Another confidence vote round might then ensue and so on until a coalition government emerges. By then it’ll be too late to stop Brexit via the Referendum route due to the time it takes to get it organised.
So it seems to me that we are in no deal territory save for a last minute change of attitude by the EU.
55:45 and nine of this chaos would have happened.
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
English or British depending on the moment. 
When people ask you which continent you live on, which one do you tell them?
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What’s that got to do with anything that matters? Road to nowhere this sub-topic.
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