[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by denphone

Just because we were the first to abolish slavery does not make it right in any way.

Two things.

1. Time moves forward and humanity tries things at a particular point in time.

2. Nobody is justifying past slavery. We're glad it was abolished by civilised countries.



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Originally Posted by Stuart

If you want facts, I'd like to point out to you that as a percentage of our income, the UK was the lowest contributor to the EU. See, I can use the same table from the BBC website you appear to have used.
[SEPH]: The headline ranking - cash - which is what the EU counts was as I stated.

As for the rest, I'd argue most of it is opinion , apart from the problems with the Euro (which I have never been a fan of).

As for the Irish, you appear to be blaming them for using the law to protect their own exports. Isn't that what any government should do? Also, should they accept an outside government they didn't vote for coming in to tell them what to do? Bear in mind that to the Irish, that is exactly what the UK government is. An outside organisation that they didn't vote for.
[SEPH]: Total rubbish. Of course they are entitled to look after their own interests. But on a sham basis? Which is what they are doing.