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Old 04-12-2018, 08:46   #4241
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Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by Damien View Post
Looks like the EU court will rule that the UK can revoke Article 50 without the permission of the wider EU: https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status...68636368715776

Unlikely to be needed but in the event of a second referendum the fact the UK may be able to simply revoke it rather than ask permission would mean , again in theory, that the EU can't impose conditions such as losing the rebate on such a decision.
Another domino falls.

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Originally Posted by Pierre View Post
If the U.K. parliament is intransigent to this deal, why would the EU offer an extension of A50.

To do so would imply they were willing to move their position.

Big .IF.

If such a bill failed to materialise, then my earlier analysis would be correct as no extension to A50 would be offered?

if one is on the table.

. No need for an extension in that scenario, we will have taken the gift away from the EU iand just leave.

in which case A50 would be withdrawn by us, we don’t need EU agreement for that

No, i’m afraid my interpretation is correct. If the EU offer an extension of A50 it would only be to renegotiate elements of the Withdrawal agreement. They may do it, but they have been intransigent so far, so if they did it would be the first sign of them wilting.

Or they may think that no deal is worth the display of EU unity.
Your interpretation is just that, an interpretation. It’s based on inherently flawed understandings of our constitution and the motivations of the parties involved. Then again, that’s not stopped our three Brexit secretaries getting the job.

The EU has motivation to allow an extension for any multitude of reasons. If there’s any chance of a ballot with Remain on the table a three month delay is nothing to the EU.

It doesn’t change the underlying facts for other member states. You can crash out with no deal, a poorly negotiated deal or remain in the EU. None of that materially changes with a short extension.

Indeed, potentially we can now unilaterally withdraw and manufacture a two year extension of our own.

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