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Old 03-12-2018, 18:47   #4196
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Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by jonbxx View Post
Looking at the furore this agreement has caused, it does seem that a lot of people have forgotten that the deal on the table is an interim agreement until a full trade agreement can be reached.

Here's a nice summary from some trade experts on the current status and what might happen next and what needs to happen next - https://uktradeforum.net/2018/11/30/...l-with-the-eu/
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The UK would be "indefinitely committed" to EU customs rules if Brexit trade talks broke down, the chief law officer has said.
"Indefinitely" is a lot longer than "Interim". It is solely the EU that decides how long is "interim". At the very least they would hold it over us until they get everything they want, which with either May or Corbyn would be easy for the EU.


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Insisting he would answer questions 'candidly', Mr Cox said the Britain was 'indefinitely committed' to the backstop if it ever came into force - but said that was a political not a legal question.
Short of agreeing a full UK-EU trade deal, the only way to break the Irish backstop is to convince a tribunal there is 'clear evidence' that the EU is deliberately avoiding finalising a trade agreement.


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Originally Posted by jfman View Post
Curious language by the Attorney General, the backstop is “intended to be temporary“, which is to say it doesn’t have that definate legal status. Or else he would specify the timescale or mechanism by which it will end.

Tick tock for May’s plan.

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I’m still unsure how a French starting point of negotiations (fishing rights) is “bullying” if we want tariff free access to the largest trading bloc in the world. What if Trump wanted rights to drill for shale gas in the UK or it’s overseas territories to go to US companies? Would that be “bullying”?

“Great” Britain better get used to being bullied I feel giving up anything in trade negotiations is suddenly a red line. The rest of the world is likely to be anticipating our distressed negotiating position as we get desperate for any kind of agreement with anyone.
Nothing wrong with allowing other countries access to our waters, but it must be under OUR FULL control. No need for it to be part of any agreement, although a minimum EU quota doesn't seem unreasonable.



We don't have a big enough UK fishing fleet to take up any slack from not allowing other countries access. Overnight there would be a shortage of available fish.
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