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Old 30-11-2018, 11:01   #3970
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by jfman View Post
I’m not leaving the conversation because you ask. Brexit is collapsing and I literally cannot was wait to read all of the responses.
It's certainly not Brexit that is collapsing - only the Withdrawal Agreement!

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Originally Posted by nomadking View Post
They are not forecasts of any sort. Nothing can really be forecast 15 years into the future. Even then the "forecasts" say "could", not "will".
I think some are seizing on these forecasts as being proof of their unshakable belief that Brexit will be a disaster. It won't be, of course, just as the world didn't come to an end immediately after the vote to leave was announced.

The remainers like to describe the whole process as a shambles, and don't they like to go on, and on, and on about this and their predicted implosion of the world as we know it?

Despite everything the 'remoaners' are saying, and I use that term to distinguish normal remainers from those who just won't accept the democratic result of the referendum, we now have the best withdrawal agreement that can be negotiated with the EU. Remoaners said we would end up paying the EU hundreds of billions of pounds to leave, we settled at £39bn. They said TM would never get to Phase Ii of the negotiating process. Then they said we would never get a deal. They have been wrong on all counts to date and yet they still, with gallons of false confidence, proclaim this as a disaster and the post Brexit world as a catastrophe for 'little' Britain. It's all tosh.

We are now at a situation where we have three pretty good choices. We accept the imperfect Withdrawal Agreement on the basis that this is the bridge we cross to get out of the EU, preserving frictionless trade with no tariffs in the meantime. Or we can take the Norway route as that bridge instead of the Withdrawal Agreement, but which would mean that free movement of people would have to continue during that period. Or we can just make a clean break and negotiate our trade deal when we are out.

All this emotion and nonsense about Brexit is just hot air. The economic forecasts are all based on the downsides, the worst case scenarios quoted out of context and practically no attention is being paid to the upsides of better deals and cheaper goods from the rest of the world.

Those watching all this in bewilderment should be reassured that we will get through this despite the prophets of doom, and if there is some disruption, it will be minor and short lived. A small price to pay to realise our dreams for a brighter future.

And just a final word to the remoaners. We are not 'little' Britain. We are Great Britain, and if you want proof, check your atlas.
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