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Certain people in this thread have said that the EU is only doing what it should - namely look after its own interests. This is to sneer at the decision to leave the EU (they should not do that) and to sneer at the guvmin's mishandling of all this (quite right).

No sooner is the ink dry on that awful Withdrawal Agreement then Macron is already demanding a chunk of our fishing rights if we are to stand any chance of a trade agreement. That's a nasty piece of crowing. They are nasty, whether or not they are protecting their interests. If we treat with them, it's a battle we can't win.

Parliament ought to be wise enough to vote down the Withdrawal Agreement. But if not, we are set for another assault on our nation by the EU; so I doubt that will happen.

That leaves No Deal vs Remain. Remain won't be easy because those nasty people will exact a price for allowing Article 50 to be rescinded; we'll lose out rebate for a start. On the other hand, if they really do want us to stay, they could put sweeteners our way during the campaign.

If, in a referendum, we voted No Deal, which is my preference, we would be shot of them. They would be the bad boys in the world's eyes if they stopped Eurostar, etc and the world would laugh at the French who set so much importance by being able to fish our waters.