Thread: Brexit (Old)
View Single Post
Old 26-11-2018, 03:09   #3780
RichardCoulter
cf.mega poster
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 10,719
RichardCoulter has disabled reputation
Re: Brexit

Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman View Post
If the immigrant can’t speak English how are they beating unemployed English people into the jobs?
Some speak English and some don't. Not all jobs require English to be spoken, particularly as whole workforces will be speaking a foreign language. Many employers won't be bothered about language, they are more concerned about getting cheap labour (which often undercuts the wage of UK residents).

Wage rates are depressed, meaning that to compete others have to agree to a low wage (prompting in work benefit claims) or remain unemployed. Either way, this means more Government expenditure on benefits.

---------- Post added at 03:00 ---------- Previous post was at 02:55 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman View Post
Massive generalisations going on there. Why not just do away with the welfare state as it’s obviously open to systematic abuse from English people too. Imagine having the audacity to pay tax and expect an NHS hospital to help deliver your baby.

---------- Post added at 18:47 ---------- Previous post was at 18:43 ----------

Regarding social housing I’m sure we used to have plenty but something happened along the way...
A lot won't be paying tax or NI, either because the personal allowances have been substantially increased or because they only need to work over 16 hours a week to get round the no Jobseekers Allowance rule as soon as they arrive here.

Aside from the financial aspect, these people are putting a strain on hospitals, schools etc.

---------- Post added at 03:09 ---------- Previous post was at 03:00 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K View Post
Even if those people are vital Drs, nurses and carers we don't have enough of for our ageing population ?
Some immigration is desirable, it's the fact that anyone who cared to come here could do so and we were powerless to stop them. Under a hard Brexit or Mays deal we will be able to control the quantity and quality of immigrants we allow in.

I think that the problems caused by EU migrants was a major reason why a sizeable number of people voted to leave.

I do hope that the Government will have the sense to let anyone in on the proviso that it is not necessarily a permanent arrangement. Over the next decade millions of jobs will be lost to automation and we will have enough of a problem dealing with this without the extra burden of people who become surplus to requirements from overseas.
RichardCoulter is offline