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Old 18-11-2018, 12:24   #3273
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Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth View Post
This deal might have been acceptable had we not seen evidence of the bad faith and bullying of the EU. We can't trust them to negotiate in true good faith via the weasel words "best endeavours".\contained in the political protocol.

There are apologists for the EU on this thread who defend the obvious intention of the EU to squeeze the most out of Brexit that they can at the UK's expense rather than supporting a campaign to stand up to the EU and send them into a spin over the 39 billion etc.

It is very clear to me that it has been the EU's plan, at the behest of the perfidious Irish government, to carve Ulster out of the UK. The Draft Agreement does little to thwart that.

Curious about your use of 'apologists on this thread'.

The European Union is a rational actor in a capitalist system. It's not particularly difficult to predict it's motivations or it's actions.

The fact that Britain voted for Brexit without a clear agreement on what that is isn't the fault of the European Union.
The fact the Cameron Government made no preparations for a Leave vote isn't the fault of the European Union.
The fact Britain voted for a hung Parliament giving no clear mandate for a type of Brexit isn't the fault of the European Union.
The fact our Prime Minister could be toppled because the Conservative party can't agree on Brexit isn't the fault of the European Union.
The fact that Britain has no contingency plans for No Deal isn't the fault of the European Union.

If the shoe was on the other foot we would do exactly the same thing. Indeed, much of the 'we hold all the cards' rhetoric implied we would have the EU on their knees begging the UK for a deal.

If Scotland voted for independence do you think England would make it as easy and cheap as possible to secede from the UK? Of course not. England would want what it was due. Scotland would (if outside the EU then) have to negotiate trade deals like any other country.
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