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Old 18-11-2018, 10:24   #3270
jfman
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Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by Pierre View Post
This is a withdrawal agreement not a trade deal.

Negotiations on a trade deal will start after we leave.

At least get that “minor” fact correct in your rant.[COLOR="Silver"]
It’s not my fault you can’t read. It was said this would be the easiest trade deal ever (Liam Fox), all we have two years on is this contingency plan.

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It would still up for negotiation

We would have to go to the ECJ to get out. Not ideal but there is a mechanism.

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You have said a trade deal should give people what they wanted, and it may be possible to solve the underlying issues. It may not, and it’ll entirely be at the discretion of Brussels if it does.
it will be negotiated



We don’t need a second vote, it’s this deal or no deal. That has always been the situation from day one.
You don’t want a second vote, but thankfully that has no legislative authority in the United Kingdom or the European Union.

The hopes and dreams that the EU will hand us a great trade deal are gone. We are only going to get what the EU/ECJ permit.

We’re playing Russian roulette, they’ve loaded all the chambers, handed us the gun and told us it’s our turn.

Theresa May conceded on Ridge that if her deal gets voted down there’s a risk of delay or that Brexit might not happen.

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Originally Posted by Pierre View Post
I’ve always said N.I. Would be the alter on which Brexit is sacrificed. No N.I. Issue no problem for a hard border, no need for a CU backstop to avoid it.


I think this agreement is a good place to “start” negotiations not finish them.

It would be interesting to see if we went back to the EU, with some amendments that would definitely see the agreement passed, if they would change, with the alternative being no deal. Make some changes bat it back over to them see what they do.
I can tell you exactly what they’d do.

Nothing.

This is Britain’s problem. Giving up Northern Ireland there’s a genuine blood on the streets event.

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