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Old 29-10-2018, 16:46   #2440
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Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by Stuart View Post
Actually, IIRC, Labour hadn't officially committed to either Brexit or Remain at the election, merely stating they required 6 conditions to be met to allow Brexit to go ahead. So, you actually had one party that stated it was behind brexit, and one that was not clear on whether it was or not (and is still really evading that question, although we all know they support Brexit). As for the other parties, IMO, our political system makes it difficult for smaller parties to prosper in general elections. That said, the Liberal Democrats have done well from time to time in previous elections.


And surely if *either* side lied, that should be enough to call the result of the referendum into question?
Labour had the tests yes, but first and foremost they said the referendum result must be honoured.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39665835

Nobody knows what their position is now, least of all them

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Originally Posted by ianch99 View Post

About the democratic bit: your certainty is predicated on the assumption that your beliefs and wishes are correct and there is no possibility of you being wrong.

Well I am sorry to disappoint. History is littered with cases where democracies have been duped into making what, retrospectively, would now be considered the wrong choice. For example, only yesterday, Brazil elected a far right candidate who:

Jair Bolsonaro: Far-right candidate wins Brazil poll



Democratic ... yes, certainly. Desirable, certainly not.
But the beauty of a Democracy is the freedom to make mistakes. Not that I’m saying Brexit is a mistake, only time will tell.

I’d rather live in a country that has the power to vote in, and out, far right candidates, than one that didn’t.
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