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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
Leavers knew that the consequences of a leave vote would mean years of uncertainty and an ongoing debate about the relationship with the EU. So why they're complaining about a situation of their own making is somewhat bewildering.
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The leavers are add odds with one another because some want a clean break and others want a deal with the EU.
The 'hard Brexiteers', for want of a better term, are fearful that Theresa May's Chequers plan will ruin our ability to forge new trade deals and tie us into the EU rules so that we are not truly independent. However, I think there are misunderstandings about that, and when the full details of this deal are released shortly, the vast majority of leavers will see that this is a sensible arrangement that TM has negotiated.
Dominic Raab on the Andrew Marr Show yesterday was a breath of fresh air.
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Originally Posted by Mr K
700,000 ?? A good turn out I'd say.. Peaceful protest shouldn't be ridiculed.
Would riots get more of an audience as Brexiters have threatened if they don't get the 'pure' Brexit they want ? Suspect most of them would just post rants on the Daily Fail/Torygraph rather than get off their elderly backsides.
All words and no action is the Brexit modus operandi.. Boris/ the Moggster are perfect examples. TM is safe if those wet blankets are her main rivals.
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700,000? How many do you think would join a protest by the Brexiteers, who are in a majority? No amount of protesting by a vocal minority, even if it is a large minority, is going to change this decision.
We will leave, almost certainly with a deal. I am sure Parliament will have taken notice of the protest and opt to accept the deal rather than go for a complete break. It's the only compromise on offer.
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
Imagine the Leave campaign in the event of a second referendum? Will they be in televised debates claiming how easy it will be to get a trade deal with the EU, how easy it will be to sign trade deals around the world, how leaving won't harm the economy. Who will now believe what they're saying?
When they line up their illegal money for Facebook ads, Nick Clegg will be watching and stop them.
For all the reasons above, Leave doesn't want a People's Vote. They know they can't win any vote without lying and cheating and enlisting the aid of foreign governments that are hostile to this great country of ours.
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You really do live in a different world, don't you, Andrew? Why waste taxpayers' money as well as valuable time on another vote if Theresa May has delivered on the referendum decision? It's typical EU tactics to keep asking until they get the decision they want, following which no further votes will be entertained.
The EU is not democratic. They don't allow the wishes of the majority their say and they don't care. I, for one, no longer wish to be part of such a repressive institution, and frankly I am amazed that you should be raging against leaving it. I can only explain this by assuming it's the result of the Stockholm syndrome. Nothing else makes sense.