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Old 10-10-2018, 18:10   #1762
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Dave42 View Post
worst of all worlds is no deal and parliament will sure no way vote for that and before you shout project fear read article 50


Article 50


1. Any Member State may decide to withdraw from the Union in accordance with its own constitutional requirements.

2. A Member State which decides to withdraw shall notify the European Council of its intention. In the light of the guidelines provided by the European Council, the Union shall negotiate and conclude an agreement with that State, setting out the arrangements for its withdrawal, taking account of the framework for its future relationship with the Union. That agreement shall be negotiated in accordance with Article 218(3) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union. It shall be concluded on behalf of the Union by the Council, acting by a qualified majority, after obtaining the consent of the European Parliament.

3. The Treaties shall cease to apply to the State in question from the date of entry into force of the withdrawal agreement or, failing that, two years after the notification referred to in paragraph 2, unless the European Council, in agreement with the Member State concerned, unanimously decides to extend this period.

4. For the purposes of paragraphs 2 and 3, the member of the European Council or of the Council representing the withdrawing Member State shall not participate in the discussions of the European Council or Council or in decisions concerning it.

A qualified majority shall be defined in accordance with Article 238(3)(b) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union.


5. If a State which has withdrawn from the Union asks to rejoin, its request shall be subject to the procedure referred to in Article 49.


so every treaty will be lost for everything so project FACT
I am not quaking in my boots, Dave. We will get an agreement, the only question is about the detail of that agreement.

Leavers want out, which means not being in the EU, Common Market, or Customs Union. We don't want their damn treaties!

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Originally Posted by Angua View Post
A link would be handy. A bald statement without any back up is just speculation. Truth is, we don't know what May might try and get through, we only know what people "say" they "might" do.
A link is not necessary to support an opinion. However, the view I have expressed is commonly held. Many leavers want no deal with the EU at all, and if TM breaches another red line, she'll not get it through. You will be well aware that many people believe that Chequers itself is dead, so nothing that gives away more than that stands a chance.
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