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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
Ok, if you want to pick hairs, the majority of the electorate who voted. I am happy with that, but I am not happy with the argument some seem to have that those who did not vote would have voted remain.
We live in a democracy, but nobody is forced to vote (in some countries, it is compulsory). However, if you don't vote, you cannot justifiably argue that the result was unfair as it wasn't what you wanted, or it wasn't representative.
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The electorate were told quite clearly that the result would be binding.
The process to achieve that maybe complicated, but that is a matter for the politicians to resolve. There is no case for the public to be involved in actually making the ultimate decision, any more than any other decision that a government comes to in carrying out its manifesto.
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Clearly, the Northern Irish border wasn't the problem they made it out to be, then. 
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Well, if true, Barnier will know, unless he's an idiot, that such a solution is not acceptable, in which case there will be no deal based on that within three days!
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It's not acceptable to the government, either, so it's a no deal if that's the best the EU can do. |
worst of all worlds is no deal and parliament will sure no way vote for that and before you shout project fear read article 50
Article 50
1. Any Member State may decide to withdraw from the Union in accordance with its own constitutional requirements.
2. A Member State which decides to withdraw shall notify the European Council of its intention. In the light of the guidelines provided by the European Council, the Union shall negotiate and conclude an agreement with that State, setting out the arrangements for its withdrawal, taking account of the framework for its future relationship with the Union. That agreement shall be negotiated in accordance with Article 218(3) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union. It shall be concluded on behalf of the Union by the Council, acting by a qualified majority, after obtaining the consent of the European Parliament.
3.
The Treaties shall cease to apply to the State in question from the date of entry into force of the withdrawal agreement or, failing that, two years after the notification referred to in paragraph 2, unless the European Council, in agreement with the Member State concerned, unanimously decides to extend this period.
4. For the purposes of paragraphs 2 and 3, the member of the European Council or of the Council representing the withdrawing Member State shall not participate in the discussions of the European Council or Council or in decisions concerning it.
A qualified majority shall be defined in accordance with Article 238(3)(b) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union.
5. If a State which has withdrawn from the Union asks to rejoin, its request shall be subject to the procedure referred to in Article 49.
so every treaty will be lost for everything so project
FACT