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Originally Posted by Angua
You cannot say that the majority of the electorate supported either side.
Whatever happens we ALL have to live with whatever gets decided whether voted for or not and as far as I am aware, we still live in a democracy not a dictatorship.
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Ok, if you want to pick hairs, the majority of the electorate who voted. I am happy with that, but I am not happy with the argument some seem to have that those who did not vote would have voted remain.
We live in a democracy, but nobody is forced to vote (in some countries, it is compulsory). However, if you don't vote, you cannot justifiably argue that the result was unfair as it wasn't what you wanted, or it wasn't representative.[COLOR="Silver"]
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Originally Posted by Angua
Oddly, I am not saying we should not leave. My argument has always been about expectations. With the reality of leaving being a whole load more complicated than the simplistic referendum vote options given. Added to the narrow majority voting to leave, a significant percentage of the population need to be heard, not just ridden rough shod over.
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The electorate were told quite clearly that the result would be binding.
The process to achieve that maybe complicated, but that is a matter for the politicians to resolve. There is no case for the public to be involved in actually making the ultimate decision, any more than any other decision that a government comes to in carrying out its manifesto.
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Originally Posted by Dave42
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EU chief Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier says a Brexit deal with the UK is within reach by next Wednesday
if deal reached and Parliament votes it down even ardent leavers cant blame EU for that but I know they will try too
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Clearly, the Northern Irish border wasn't the problem they made it out to be, then.

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Originally Posted by jonbxx
Good spot!
Looking on the Sky News web site, it looks like a North Sea border is the option. Auntie Arlene will not be happy....
100% veterinary and phytosanitary checks on the north/republic border too. Gonna need to close some roads I think.
https://news.sky.com/story/final-bre...ay-eu-11522903
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Well, if true, Barnier will know, unless he's an idiot, that such a solution is not acceptable, in which case there will be no deal based on that within three days!
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Originally Posted by Dave42
can see government falling then without Auntie Arlene it will not get past parliament
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It's not acceptable to the government, either, so it's a no deal if that's the best the EU can do.