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Old 04-10-2018, 20:03   #1619
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Re: Brexit Discussion (Follow First Post Rules!)
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth View Post
So, you're saying that we must be shackled to an undemocratic entity just so that the less "comfortably off" are not negatively affected. Why is that good? The dictatorship wins.
There is no dictatorship. Otherwise, surely we would have the Euro and not the Pound.

Thoughtful piece today about Europe.
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The great difference is that, in their bones, the English mostly lack fear. Most continentals do not. On the European mainland, only Portugal, Spain, Sweden and Switzerland survived the second world war unconquered. What was the sovereignty of the Netherlands worth in 1940? Four days. As an Irish minister told me after the Brexit referendum, first of all the EU is a peace project. But it is not built on fear alone. It is also built on hope — of a prosperous, integrated Europe able to speak up in the world.

It is legitimate to reject this project. Brexiters do. It is legitimate to believe the EU has over-reached. On monetary union, I agree. It is legitimate to believe the EU has under-reached. On defence, I also agree. But it is illegitimate for a sane person to despise the EU’s goals or hope that it will collapse into chaos.
https://www.ft.com/content/0c870040-...f-ee390057b8c9
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