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Old 25-09-2018, 09:04   #1442
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Re: Brexit Discussion (Follow First Post Rules!)

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 View Post
Juncker says a lot of words; which speech are you referring to?
Two countries expressing agreement over something doesn't make it EU policy or strategy.
There may not be a detailed public plan, Andrew, but if you really do not think that the EU, if it remains in tact for long enough, won't end up as the United States of Europe, you are definitely in the minority on that one.

In fact, it is the only way this failed project ever has the chance of working, and given the type of 'democracy' it will be, I wouldn't wish to be a part of it.

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Originally Posted by Angua View Post
True.

I do think one problem we have always had is a lack of understanding on how the people we elect actually work within the EU parliament.

Politics here are pretty much a 2 party system with some fringe groups (which can be right in the middle of the political spectrum). Where the EU is run on PR lines, with groupings according to general political flavour. So trying to explain how a multi party PR elected grouping works bears no relation to the old fashioned adversarial and undemocratic system we have for Westminster.
Proportional representation leads to weak coalition style governments in perpetuity. We have one at the moment, due to a lack of a majority in the House of Commons, and look at how irritated we all are with that. Fortunately, issues such as these do not occur very often and it is when we have a strong government we are most successful.
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