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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
I never said anything of the sort. I was criticising your selectivity and blindness to the stuff that Pierre has so well pointed out. Namely the evolution from a trading bloc into the Union, which Juncker now demands that nations surrender more power to the centre.
Your trump card seems to be referring me to post #1.
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Leave Trump out of this.
There's nowt selective about my use of an independent fact-checking source to back up an accurate representation of the facts.
I've never disputed that the EU has evolved and that's never been in question. You've chosen to project it evolving into something that there is no plan to happen. Even in some fantasy scenario it did, the UK would not be a part of if it had remained a member.
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Originally Posted by Pierre
Tell me why then did the EEC, a trading bloc of nations, need to evolve into a political entity?
Also, given the evidence and history of how it has thus evolved from a free trade association over the past 40 odd years into a quasi - Federal State, why would you think that it would not evolve further? Why would it stop now?
Perfect example of "don't worry it will never happen" is outlined in the two articles below.
1. Where Euro-fanatic Nick Clegg taunts Farage over his claim that there will be an EU military force. Stating that it is "inconceivable"
https://inews.co.uk/opinion/columnis...ises-350m-nhs/
2. Forward six months, and suddenly not only is it conceivable but has the backing of the two ring masters France and Germany.
https://www.politico.eu/article/emma...military-plan/
other revealing snippets from that interview are the formation of a European Monetary Fund
for the above read "Greece". We'll keep you in our back pocket, and you will do as we say if want any cash.
another reveal was this too:
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You make some interesting points but still nothing there to back up a long-term plan for a United States of Europe.
In a world of large super powers (China, Russia, US) then speaking with one voice makes sense. United we stand, divided we fall and all that. But doubtless EU countries won't agree on everything.