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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
You read like an apologist for the EU. Get this: by democratic Referendum, the UK voted to leave the EU (and they consider that a heresy (metaphorically so).
Macron said "'Those who explain that we can easily live without Europe, that everything is going to be alright, and that it's going to bring a lot of money home, are liars".
In anyone's language, that is a threat to the UK, slamming the door on reasonable negotiations. We can get into stupid argument about who lied the most from both sides but the Referendum result rejected the fears posed by the guvmin's circular.
You, and others, are dodging the sovereignty question by hiding behind the EU's right to be difficult instead of criticising it. Shameful.
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Have you heard of the term Metaphor?
On your point about the EU's objective I don't think that what you have said is true (UNION is the objective). But I understand what you are saying. However, if I take you at your word, they don't want us to leave and then do better than we are doing now - whether or not that is by way agreement.
But then we have to define "better". It seems to me that this comes down to their understanding of cherry picking.
We really must break free from their shackles and their mission that will subjugate us under their jurisdiction.
If you (Remainers on this thread) can't agree with that, then you are not good Brits.
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Whilst you are making spurious claims about the EU behemoth being able to change to suit us?
Well too bad. We
will be worse off outside the EU, but this is what the majority chose. The fact those who still support leaving are trying to attribute all sorts of motives to the EU, rather than face that fact the UK government control so much we blame the EU for.
Own the change, take responsibility for that choice and stop blaming the EU for our own governments failings.
As for the last comment, I refer you to the first post rules of this discussion.