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Old 19-09-2018, 07:44   #1275
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Re: Brexit Discussion (Follow First Post Rules!)
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Originally Posted by Pierre View Post
Brexit has the potential to destroy all the main parties. There is no “Brexit party”, nobody comes out of this looking good.

None of the three main parties wanted Brexit. The Tories find themselves in government and therefore have to try and deliver it.

Labour have to challenge the Govt but then can’t be seen to be frustrating no the process and therefore just look stupid with no ideas, no sensible alternative. “ jobs first Brexit” what does that mean? Stay in “a” not “the” customs union, what does that mean? “Retain the benefits of the single market” ????? They say they will “will reject ‘no deal’ as a viable option ” yet Thornberry stated Labour would vote against “any” deal.......thereby triggering a no deal.

LibDems just flat outright don’t accept the result of the referendum.

If Brexit doesn’t happen it will make the tuition fees issue look like a minor spat. UKIP would rise again and Farage would return like a vulture circling the cadavers of the main political parties.

If we get a half in /half out Brexit, still subservient to the ECJ and the 4F’s, the Tories would suffer internally, there will be a leader change potentially a GE, UKIP would gain support. LibDem’s would lose any traction they had. Labour would just blindly object to anything like they always do.

If we get a no deal Brexit, TM may walk leading to a Leadership change, I wouldn’t expect a GE immediately. UKIP would be totally finished, LibDems would have to run on a ticket of rejoining the EU, guaranteeing that they are distant 4th in any future election. Labour just complain, and try to say how they would have got a deal had they been in power forgetting that it was them that voted against any deal.
We will not get a half in, half out Brexit, though, will we? We will be pulling out of the EU, single market and customs union and although some might not like the common rulebook idea, that will only apply to a relatively small amount of our trade, and we are relatively happy with those rules.

However, services are not affected, and as that is the bulk of our business, we will benefit from making all those rules ourselves. If the rest doesn't work out, we can change those arrangements at our own leisure at a future date.

As for Barnier, he is in negotiating mood, so you can take his public pronouncements with a pinch of salt.

Remember that both sides in the negotiation actually do want a deal. All this smoke and mirrors is designed both to unsettle the British and get plaudits for him when he announces the deal at the 11th ho
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