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Old 24-08-2018, 16:33   #1829
Chloé Palmas
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Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation

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Originally Posted by Mick View Post
You're forgetting, the President is the Commander and chief of the army. He could order them to stand down, are they obliged to obey?
If he was convicted by the Senate though, he would no longer be the actual President. The army would answer up the chain of command (JC / SECDEF / POTUS etc) but the President would be the incumbent VP who automatically becomes the President if the former President (current, at the time), is expelled having been convicted, by the Senate.

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What's the actual process to physically removing the President from the White House/Power.... ?
After trial (and conviction for the scenario to play out) he would be guilty of a crime so would almost certainly be charged, and once expelled, the US Marshals office would take him into custody.

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Are the Secret Service ordered to stand down, who gives them that order ?
Before 9/11 and the formation of DHS I can't remember who they answer to but since, they are part of the umbrella organization created under Ridge's watch but they will no longer serve to protect him. They would be there to protect Pence who would be the President. If Trump didn't surrender, he would just be a fugitive at that point.

All of this is just a hypothetical scenario though as it is never going to anywhere, impeachment is now a non issue.

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Clinton was cleared by the Senate, so full impeachment was not fulfilled. Clinton survived.
Well technically Clinton did get impeached by the house, he was just acquitted by the Senate.

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There was no need for some kind of civil unrest in either case because the removal process never actually took place.

So while Clinton was Impeached in House of Representatives, he was acquitted in the Senate because of the two-thirds of the Senate — 67 votes needed — is a very high threshold that’s almost never achieved on any matter that’s remotely partisan, which is why Trump is in no danger, even if Democrats take ALL 10 Republican Senate Seats up for re-election after the Mid-terms, the numbers just are not there, there would have to be very damning evidence of a high crime for Trump to lose Republican Senators support.
Spot on - the Senate majority is going to increase one way or another in a few months...that is assuming that the Dems even take back the house. They're not going to run on an impeachment agenda for 2020 so Trump is safe until re-elect. Impeachment prospects are dead.

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The Founding Fathers did not make it easy for Congress to remove a democratically elected president from power. Bill Clinton's Impeachment proceedings showed that, even after he was technically guilty of lying of having his affair.
True 'dat!
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