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Old 24-08-2018, 15:22   #1016
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Re: Brexit Discussion (New thread-Follow First Post Rules!)

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Originally Posted by Chloé Palmas View Post
Yeah that was there ultimate goal through nationalism - the end goal of socialism. Just rather conveniently happens to be an antisemitic, support nationalized healthcare etc. Co-incidence?

Anyway aside from pointing out similarities to the Nazi's I guess I might as well use this post to say that Lab now also does seem to have found enough political room for maneuver to suggest that they would back a second referendum if a no deal exit fails, which it will:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8504001.html


Barry Gardiner made a mess of his comments but he is a seat right next to Barnet which is the most conservative town in the UK and is worried that the leave vote will spill over into his area, not to mention Barnet has the biggest Jewish community in the UK so that is something that he is afraid of, too. His vote total and percentage has been steadily increasing for a decade + now so I don't think that he wants to squander that at all.

The thing is, everyone knew this was coming but for all Labor's talk of respecting the vote etc, we all know that if there is no deal, they are going to turn suit and refuse to leave / favor another vote / advocate remaining etc. We all know that it is going to happen - agree with it or not, it is a reality. If May stays, and continues with the idiocy of chequers / her plan to stay aligned on goods only, then we're staying in the EU as there is no way a no deal exit gets through parliament.
I think the only way Labour will support a second referendum is if they get rid of Corbyn. He has waited for decades for this, there is no way he will do a 180 and buy into remaining in the EU.

As both sides will soon recognise the disaster that No Deal represents, the posturing, esp. by Rabb of playing down the impact of WTO No Deal in March will be replaced by a last minute muddy fudge of a Withdrawal Agreement to allow the UK/EU to move into a transition limbo where they will try (and fail) to square the circle.

After this tedious 20 months, I guess we will end up in the unavoidable (while the current Players are in charge) WTO Brexit but at least we will have had 2 more years (ish) to make the pain less.
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