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**Hugh** · 24-08-2018, 15:20

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Originally Posted by Chloé Palmas

Yeah that was there ultimate goal through nationalism - the end goal of socialism. Just rather conveniently happens to be an antisemitic, support nationalized healthcare etc. Co-incidence?

Anyway aside from pointing out similarities to the Nazi's I guess I might as well use this post to say that Lab now also does seem to have found enough political room for maneuver to suggest that they would back a second referendum if a no deal exit fails, which it will:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8504001.html

Barry Gardiner made a mess of his comments but he is a seat right next to Barnet which is the most conservative town in the UK and is worried that the leave vote will spill over into his area, not to mention Barnet has the biggest Jewish community in the UK so that is something that he is afraid of, too. His vote total and percentage has been steadily increasing for a decade + now so I don't think that he wants to squander that at all.

The thing is, everyone knew this was coming but for all Labor's talk of respecting the vote etc, we all know that if there is no deal, they are going to turn suit and refuse to leave / favor another vote / advocate remaining etc. We all know that it is going to happen - agree with it or not, it is a reality. If May stays, and continues with the idiocy of chequers / her plan to stay aligned on goods only, then we're staying in the EU as there is no way a no deal exit gets through parliament.

Actually (and not a lot of people know this), the Nazi's privatised a lot of the State industries...

http://www.ub.edu/graap/nazi.pdf

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Abstract:
The Great Depression spurred State ownership in Western capitalist countries. Germany was no exception; the last governments of the Weimar Republic took over firms in diverse sectors. Later, the Nazi regime transferred public ownership and public services to the private sector. In doing so, they went against the mainstream trends in the Western capitalist countries, none of which systematically reprivatized firms during the 1930s. Privatization in Nazi Germany was also unique in transferring to private hands the delivery of public services previously provided by government. The firms and the services transferred to private ownership belonged to diverse sectors. Privatization was part of an intentional policy with multiple objectives and was not ideologically driven. As in many recent privatizations, particularly within the European Union, strong financial restrictions were a central motivation. In addition, privatization was used as a political tool to enhance support for the government and for the Nazi Party.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...9.2009.00473.x

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Nationalization was particularly important in the early 1930s in Germany. The state took over a large industrial concern, large commercial banks, and other minor firms. In the mid‐1930s, the Nazi regime transferred public ownership to the private sector. In doing so, they went against the mainstream trends in western capitalistic countries, none of which systematically reprivatized firms during the 1930s. Privatization was used as a political tool to enhance support for the government and for the Nazi Party. In addition, growing financial restrictions because of the cost of the rearmament programme provided additional motivations for privatization.