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Originally Posted by Mr K
Just wonder why those Brexiters are so against a vote ? It would be on a different issue on whether or not to accept any deal ? That deal could mean very different things. The issue is big, affect generations to come, and so country changing that we need to be sure. It's not as if we don't have General Elections every few years, nothing is forever.
Think the real reason is because they know they'd lose such a vote by a long way. Some are intrenched in their 'i can never be wrong' position, but others have wised up. Day by Day the chaos of Brexit becomes apparent. I don't totally blame the Government, they've been asked to deliver something that is going to cause the country great harm. Doubtless Brexiteers will blame them and everyone else, anyone but themselves.
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Referendums are not general elections. They don’t get revisited every five years because they are only held when major, permanent constitutional changes are being mooted.
It is very clear that the ‘final say’ advocates are actually the very same people who have been looking for a way to stop Brexit since the day the result was announced. It is obvious that they are calling for the ‘final say’ question to be framed in such a way that it isn’t a vote on the nature of our departure but simply a re-run of the last referendum.
A ‘final say’ referendum would give the European Commission the final excuse it needs to be intractable to the point of offering an intolerable deal to the U.K. in the expectation that British voters would reject it and Brexit would then be prevented.
Yes, we Brexiteers fear a second referendum - not because we fear democracy, but because we’re not so blind that we can’t see exactly what the continuity remain campaign has been manoeuvring to achieve for the last 2 years.
There is little precedent for any kind of referendum in the British constitution and there is absolutely no precedent for re-addressing the same issue on a timescale less than 20 years (on the Scottish devolution question - the gap between EU referendums was 40 years).
All that aside, there is now barely enough time, allowing for Parliamentary procedure plus a reasonable campaign period (which would be determined in consultation with the electoral commission) to set up and run a referendum before next March. So unless May caves in and agrees to it very shortly after the recess (and she won’t), you can stop bleating about it and get on with your life - it ain’t happening.