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Originally Posted by Mr K

Ah I see, so some 52:48 results are different to others

They can't deliver a decent Brexit, it's fundamentally flawed. Damage limitation is the best they can hope for.

Look - you just don't get it.

The two 52/48 possible Referendum results are very different. Remain would have meant Remain with no change; Leave should have meant Leave on best possible terms. Instead, as we both agree, we appear to have a total mess of the guvmin's incompetent making.

Brexit as a goal is not fundamentally flawed at all. You Remainers have totally avoided my reasoned arguments for leaving, particular the detail I provided about German hegemony and the dirty tricks they played to get there. You are ignoring the EC dirty tricks that put the squeeze onto the likes of Greece and Italy.

The gap between you and me is appreciation of the truth and the propriety of observing Referendum result which you appear not to want to do.

All that said, I'm a realist and if we stay in the EU because of a possible second referendum, I want the UK to stay above the EC shenanigans and stick it to Juncker and Selmayr.