[RichardCoulter]

I don't think that there is a cat in helps chance that three weeks of nil carriage costs will cover the amount of discounts awarded.

I made it clear why I think that it's useful to debate the continuing effects of the situation in my last post and my comment to alwaysabear also applies to you too.

Which HD channels are you referring to that UKTV withheld? We had them all, apart from GOLD HD* which was actually offered to VM.

* GOLD HD is said to be working on a Wednesday launch date. I'm assuming that as this is the last HD slot available on the system with the current configuration, that VM will want to carry out work of some kind beforehand to free up more capacity, so hence the delay.