[Sephiroth]

The turning point for me was the EU trade deal with Japan.

Remember where I'm coming from. Those Brussels "whatsits" are an awful bunch of unelected elitists; however we are not in the Euro and we can stay outside the "ever closer union" nonsense which won't fly with the current generation of Europeans anyway.

Not that what I think matters, I don't like some of the sneering sarcasm I read like the "promised land" sentence in the previous post. This is a hard nosed matter and from an economic point of view, the Japan trade deal just tips the balance.

And another thing - we know who are not our friends. I'm referring especially to Macron of France whose naked (though understandable) attempt to grab jobs from the UK is one of the principle causes of negotiation intransigence by the Commission.

My distaste for the EU remains strong. It is a German/French axis, with the latter being akin to running dogs. I've explained in detail earlier how Germany engineered the Euro's initial value to their advantage - which has eventually led to the Greek crisis (possibly with more to follow). I've also explained that the illegal 8% German balance of payments surplus hasn't been brought to book before the ECJ. Who is running the EU? It is an awful organisation.

However, if we can continue as we are, outside the Euro/federalisation nonsense, we have to put up with three things that some/we don't particularly like but hasn't really hurt us in the past:

1/
The ECJ with respect to EU law (in which we have a formulation hand);

2/
EU Freedom of Labour Movement (I'm happy with that);

3/
Skewing the rules to get EU legislation through when we use our veto - the Working Time Directive being a case in point. Thank goodness for our opt-out.

Anyway - you can see where I'm coming from.