[ianch99]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

There are so many people, it seems, that appear to have forgotten that we did have a (very successful) history before the EU

It is a very dangerous if not a naive strategy to apply the experience gained 40+ years ago to our current situation. Repeating "it will be fine" reassures no one except the faithful.

If you think the obstacles looming out of the mist are illusory then prove it. Explain why we will not have delays at the border. explain why we will not suffer financially, etc.

Repeating "we will be fine, have faith" with no proof or worked examples is just hot air. Remember, large numbers of Leaves voters were promised they would be better off and voted on the basis of this.

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Here's interesting analysis of the recent question on impact of WTO rules on

Fact checking Sir Michael Rawlins statements in relation to Insulin and #Brexit. Should we be worried?

It aims to be objective on the issue, no tabloid headlines just an adult perspective.

Instead of having to check less than half our imports, including those coming from non-EU countries into the EU then into the UK, until there are appropriate agreements in place, and those will need to be intra and extra EU, we will need to check all imports into the UK for appropriate tariffs. It’s worth bearing in mind that the technology that is currently in use for Customs is also old and was supposed to be scrapped five years ago.

Suddenly our border infrastructure, that has been set-up to deal with the EU for forty years needs to handle twice as many imports with old technology. That’s where Sir Michael’s concern about transportation comes from. With a little over eight months, is it likely that we will have the appropriate infrastructure in place to handle the entire flow of goods?

The two points of view differ dramatically, with some saying, “Well it only takes 6 seconds for WTO goods to pass border checks” to others taking the point of view that the increased scope and complexity of border controls will cause significant delays. Many large industry participants are taking the latter viewpoint. I’m sure the truth lies somewhere in between.

This was interesting re: our WTO hard Brexit preparation:

The UK submitted its new schedule to the WTO on July 24th, however, the US, Australia and Canada all disapproved of the terms, so what the UK ends up with remains very unclear and subject to negotiation.

It seems our initial WTO position may need refining.