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Originally Posted by alwaysabear
There is always a choice and how do we know they gave into demands?
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Because otherwise ITV wouldn't have lifted their threat to cut off the feeds to VM. These talks have been going on for a loooooong time, but, all of a sudden, 24 hours after putting the pressure on VM (whist knowing that the VM negotiating position had been weakened as a result of the removal of the UKTV channels), an agreement is made.
VM had a Hobsons choice when it came to the ITV channels and ITV PLC knew this
Of course, the details of the deal are unlikely to be made public due to the commercially sensitive nature of it.
Obviously, VM have tried to get the best value that they can for their money by ensuring that they get the full portfolio of ITV material, an agreement for cloud recording etc.
I now fully expect Channel 4, Channel 5 and possibly S4C to ask VM for retransmission fees.
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Originally Posted by flummox
Well it's pretty clear which way your bread is buttered, Richard  |
What do you mean by that? Your comment doesn't make any sense.
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Originally Posted by denphone
Who said VM gave in to ITV's demands? as no one knows the ins and outs of the deal.
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l doubt it as some said that after the Sky Basics dispute and that did not materialise.
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For the reasons I gave earlier, the Sky basics issue was a whole different ball game.
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Originally Posted by oxfordmark
TO get UHD you need Sky Multiscreen too which takes the cost of the equipment down to £65
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So I called VM and the guy said they are allowing early terminations as good will.
He said he would move me to basic TV so i could get BB for £34. But when i worked out TV with Sky, the total came to more.
When I called back to cancel the BB too, they offered me a BB only price price that matched the total with Sky. So i am having Sky TV (Sports, Cinema, all HD channels) and VM BB.
I felt bad doing it, do not know why. But i feel VM are only in it for BB (they even said they were not investing in TV as much a few years back.
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Up to press, only a small number of VM customers were being allowed to leave penalty free. It will be interesting to learn if this is now a blanket policy for anyone who asks to be released.
If so, this is welcome news, but VM would have been very wise to have done as the previous owners of VM did with the Sky basics dispute and let unhappy customers leave right from the start. Short time income has been put before medium and long term revenue streams.
If they have brought this in as general policy, I would hope that any exit fees paid during the last week will be refunded. Such a move will also weaken the VM claim that their contract designed to stop customers leaving when any type or number of channels are removed was not unfair; I don't think that describing it as a goodwill gesture will cut the mustard with anybody.
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Originally Posted by alwaysabear
I am sure a deal will be done eventually with UKTV, there is a lot of posturing going on from both sides and unfortunately its the customer who suffers.
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I agree, for the FTA channels at least.
The events of today have, for the first time, given an indication that VM have begun to realise the enormity of what they have done and their foolish response to the consequences thereof.