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Old 13-07-2018, 14:11   #445
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Re: Brexit Discussion (New thread-Follow First Post Rules!)
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Originally Posted by Mick View Post
It’s gone to back of queue because May’s Brexit is not Brexit. Pat on back Mr. President, someone has to stand up for the electorate, our shameful MPs won’t.
I think President Trump is perfectly entitled to speak his mind. If he sees a situation developing which means he sees a problem which will affect their ability or willingness to trade with us, then it is most definitely his business to say so.

However, I'm still not sure that we are interpreting Theresa May's proposals correctly. She is adamant that the deal she is proposing ends free movement, ends the huge payments to the EU and ends the rule of the ECJ. She also says her proposed deal 'means that we can make our own trade deals'. She says we will leave the EU's customs union and single market. We are leaving the CAP and the Common Fisheries Policy.

The bit that I, and I suspect many, don't fully understand is what she means by 'a new free trade area with the EU for goods, based on a common rulebook and a business-friendly customs model'.

What that says to me is that there will be a separate arrangement, outside the rules that will govern trade with the rest of the world, that will only apply to EU trade. So, in other words, a trade deal with the EU, which lays down certain rules, such as product specifications for safety, etc. As any trade deal would.

Now if I am right about that, I'm not understanding what the objections of Boris and his ilk are. What the proposals appear to give us are the ability to trade with the rest of the world free of EU shackles, and a ready made trade deal with the EU.

Provided that we are still totally free to create our own employment laws and divest ourselves of the hated Working Time Directive, Acquired Rights Directive, etc, then I cannot see what all the fuss is about.

Could someone who is dead against Theresa's plan please tell me what they think is wrong with it? I keep thinking I'm missing something. What is it?

Just to be clear, my view is that we either get a deal that allows a full Brexit with the ability to trade elsewhere in the world free of EU encumbrances or we go full on WTO. We are not deliberately seeking to stop trading with the EU altogether, or even reduce it. There is nothing wrong with getting the best of both worlds.

Mr Trump may also come to that conclusion after speaking to Mrs May today.

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Drunken Juncker strikes again, this was yesterday at NATO, what a bloody joke....



Juncker = Piss head.
So what is it, folks? Trump or Junker?
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