[Chloé Palmas]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Well, you've certainly twisted that nicely, Chloé!

Me twisting it? There is one woman who has the mental and rhythmic gymnastics to destroy the English language...it is not me. The contortions between "We're leaving the CU" to "we want friction less trade" to "we want no hard border" to "we will not be in the same trading bloc with the RoI" to "We will pay 40 billion as a divorce settlement" to "nothing is agreed until everything is agreed" to "we are leaving the SM" to "We will stay in the SM for goods and not services" and on and on and on.

Did you think that I was masquerading as May or something? I know that we are both women but I am not the one who has twisted or spun anything. Again with just randomly making up stuff about me.

First of all, I have not compared you with anyone - I don't know you.

You're right, you don't know me...yet you still saw it upon yourself to say:

Originally Posted by Old Boy

Ah-ha: someone else on the bandwagon now openly trying to convince everyone that nothing can be changed - everything is fixed - we are all doomed.

This is the same kind of mentality Churchill faced in the late 1930s with Hitler, with the majority of the Commons arguing that appeasement was the only option, and interestingly, the public disagreed with their politicians then too.

You are saying that mine is same mentality that that Churchill faced with the appeasement of Hitler being the only option. You are comparing my mentality of to that of the "appease Hitler" crowd.

I was commenting on an attitude of hopelessness, negativity and fear of signing up to change.

Now show me one place where I have had an attitude of hopelessness negativity and fear to change?

FYI it was hardly change back in the 1930's either (for the ones who refused to join Churchill) - they went to war with Germany at the start of the century, too in WW1.

Just quit making up stuff about me.

I am not in awe of Theresa May, but I feel she deserves some credit for getting us where we are despite the adversity she faces.

I am glad that someone has owned up to it....

You can campaign to ditch May if you want to, but who else is there who can get even close to Brexit without fudging it?

I am not saying that I want to get close to it, getting the UK out of Europe is not some big priority of mine. The reason that I want rid of her is because she is the most pathetic person that this country has ever had the misfortune of calling "Prime Minister".

Yes, most would have given up long ago and that is why she deserves credit. She's got a lot further than Cameron ever did.

What??? On what level did she ever get farther than Cameron??

What specifically are you referencing that she got farther than Cameron on?