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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
Bless you. Do forgive me for going in rather hard. The 'other side' don't want to acknowledge such matters as German hegemony and are thus content to be EU rule takers. That is the 48/52 divide.
On the point of having question answered, you didn't! The question was:
But the nub of all this is are we to be the vassal state of the EU or do we plough our own furrow as a sovereign state?
You got into the logic of the term "vassal state" but avoided answering the nub as to reverting to a sovereign state.
Do you want the UK to be part of a federal Europe? In the EU but not in the federal arrangement? Out of the EU but vassal by being a rule taker? Out of the EU and fully sovereign?
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Ah OK, I see what you’re getting at I think. Of your choices, my preferred option at present would be option 2, be in the EU but not as part of some kind of federal arrangement. Basically what David Cameron came back with, avoiding the ‘ever closer union’.
Obviously, we are very unlikely to be in the EU for much longer so, from a business perspective, working for an international company, selling to other international companies, being in a customs union and single market would be ideal. Hopefully having some say in those would be great! Doing business with non-EU/EEA countries is a massive pain.