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Originally Posted by Damien
We need to find another way to solve the NI border issue than staying in 'a' customs union if such an arrangement allows the EU to sell their strengths to us but not our strength to them. Leave or Remain we're heading for a disaster no-one wants. I wanted to stay in the EU because I think it helps us to have access to that market but it's mental to constrict our access to them but not their access to us!
At the moment it seems they can sell cars to us but we'll face tariffs selling services to them! It's crazy. Brexit is going to leave them laughing at this rate.
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We've had two years to devise a solution for Ireland and failed. Even if we devised a solution that all members of the Cabinet agreed to, what motivation is there for the EU to accept it? None. The game to me was up on 8 December 2017 when Theresa May signed the backstop agreement which allowed the Brexit talks to move onto the next stage.
The EU will be quite happy for high-value services to relocate from the UK to Dublin and the Continent whilst at the same time selling us their cars and wine. We will continue to fund the EU but be a rule-taker, consulted if they are feeling generous.
If the Brexit deal has to be approved by the British Parliament, I seriously wonder if it will be accepted as by then the penny will have truly dropped.
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Originally Posted by Damien
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Tomorrow's Observer has further revelations on the scandal.
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Banks, who gave £12m of services to the campaign, becoming the biggest donor in UK history, has repeatedly denied any involvement with Russian officials, or that Russian money played any part in the Brexit campaign. The Observer has seen documents which a senior Tory MP says, if correct, raise urgent and troubling questions about his relationship with the Russian government.
The communications suggest:
- Multiple meetings between the leaders of Leave.EU and high-ranking Russian officials, from November 2015 to 2017.
- Two meetings in the week Leave.EU launched its official campaign.
- An introduction to a Russian businessman, by the Russian ambassador, the day after Leave.EU launched its campaign, who reportedly offered Banks a multibillion dollar opportunity to buy Russian goldmines.
- A trip to Moscow in February 2016 to meet key partners and financiers behind a gold project, including a Russian bank.
- Continued extensive contact in the run-up to the US election when Banks, his business partner and Leave.EU spokesman Andy Wigmore, and Nigel Farage campaigned in the US to support Donald Trump’s candidacy.
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics...brexit-meeting