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Originally Posted by Chris
The permanent solution will be the only one on the table - some kind of facilitation deal, with trusted partners and monitoring via technology. That, however, requires time to implement. Kicking the can down the road is all HMG needs to do in order to get the plan in place. It’s hard to see what objection the EU can have, when it comes to it, if the thing is up and running anyway.
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It's not hard to see what objection the EU can have to it as the UK is suggesting it reneges on its signed agreement from December 2017. The EU won't accept this and we'll stay in the customs union indefinitely. There is no magic Harry Potteresque solution to the Irish border issue.
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Leading Brexiteers are claiming that they weren’t told that Britain was planning to stay in an EU customs union indefinitely. But they were.
It’s there in black and white in paragraph 49 of the agreement Theresa May signed in the early hours on December 8 last year: “In the absence of agreed solutions, the UK will maintain full alignment with those rules of the Internal Market and the Customs Union which, now or in the future, support… the all-island economy [in Ireland].”
In short, we agreed to a backstop. We would stay fully signed up to the EU’s rules and regulations unless the Cabinet, our Parliament and all other member states managed to agree on an alternative solution to the Irish border problem.
The British Government asserted this was all part of a short-lived transition that would last only to 2020, but that was not what the text negotiated with the EU said.
...Britain is staying in a customs union with the EU indefinitely. That’s a good outcome. The only surprise is that Brexiteers are so surprised to find out.
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https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/c...-a3857641.html
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Originally Posted by ianch99
Sorry, I missed this piece of news. What plan is this exactly? You sound like we have a plan *and* it will be agreed so all we need is the time to implement it.
Sounds like wishful thinking to me ..
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There's two items of wishful thinking - Maxfac and a £20bn per year proposed solution which won't work. It's realistically a customs union or hard border with Ireland. No ifs or buts. The hard Brexiters lost this argument back in December.
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Originally Posted by Mick
It is not a fiasco leaving the EU.
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It's a shame The Spectator hasn't contacted you, Mick.
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It’s impossible to find a Leaver who thinks the whole process is going well. No surprise there.
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https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/06/...brexit-divide/