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Old 07-06-2018, 03:48   #1284
Chloé Palmas
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Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation

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Originally Posted by Mick View Post
Actually the Witch hunt started 3 years ago, when they (The Obama DOJ) put spies in Trump campaign. The funding of the dossier by HRC and DNC happened in 2016.
Not quite yet three years as he declared on the 16th of June or so (day after JEB) but the conspiracy theories about his candidacy have been running God knows how long now...

That is all they are though.

Today, this is what Paul Ryan just said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/power...=.35e89339268e

(Given the GDPR issue, I will copy some of the article in case posters can't view it).

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House Speaker Paul D. Ryan has joined those disputing President Trump’s assertion that federal law enforcement planted a spy inside his campaign, telling reporters Wednesday that he has seen “no evidence” to support such claims.

Ryan (R-Wis.) described as “accurate” an initial assessment offered last week by Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), chairman of the House Oversight Committee, who told Fox News that “the FBI did exactly what my fellow citizens would want them to do” in investigating information alleging certain Trump campaign advisers had suspicious ties to Russia.
Now not only is he saying that he saw no evidence of spying on the campaign but he is also saying that the FBI absolutely did the right thing in investigating the potential ties to Russia.

This, I might add is the Republican speaker of the house (and like with all politicians like I said in the other thread, is finally free to speak his mind as he is standing down as Speaker).

Now, Trump is the most butt sore / thin skinned President in history (and the biggest whiner you will ever see try play the tough man act) so he'll say that Ryan is the establishment / never supported him after the AH tapes surfaced etc etc.

So let's look at more of this:

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“I think Chairman Gowdy’s initial assessment is accurate,” Ryan said, adding that “we have some more digging to do. We’re waiting for some more document requests. . . . We still have some unanswered questions.

“But I have seen no evidence to the contrary of the initial assessment that Chairman Gowdy has made,” Ryan continued. “But I want to make sure that we run every lead down and make sure we get final answers to these questions. I’ll leave it at that.”
So Trey Gowdy...now he supported Rubio for President, so I can see more excuses being lined up here by Trump.

Now Trump's initial response was to say all this before an investigation even started. Now the investigation is on going Ryan doesn't want to say too much, because, well...it is classified.

We know there is only one guy constantly leaking classified info...

Anyway, let's carry on...let's find someone that did support Trump, let's see...how about Richard Burr. I wonder what he thinks....hmmm

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Following Ryan’s comments Wednesday, Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Richard Burr (R-N.C.) told CNN that he also endorses Gowdy’s take on the evidence.

“I think that Trey Gowdy’s description of the process was correct,” Burr said, according to CNN, though he left open the possibility that Trump may not be referring to Halper when he alleges his campaign was infiltrated.
Now Burr I might add, was not just a campaign adviser but advised on...wait for it, national security! Even he thinks that there was no "there there".

No response from the WH on...well, any of this.

The Democrats are also suggesting that the WH shouldn't be briefed on any of this, either:

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Democrats also have eyed the Trump legal team warily. On Tuesday, Democratic members of the Gang of Eight sent a letter to the top officials at the FBI and the Justice Department seeking assurances that neither the president nor any members of his staff or legal team had or would be briefed on the classified information pertaining to the FBI’s confidential informant, “outside of an appropriate judicial proceeding.”
That makes sense given the clear conflict of interests and the fact that members of the oversight committee (chairmen then, in Nunes) raced to the WH to report the issue and given that justice is under the executive's purview knowing Trump, he would want to know how the investigation into his own campaign, was going.

Every member of his party / supporter of his / people with clearances that serve on the hill, that have read the report have said the Obama team did not spy on the Trump team / his campaign etc etc.

Trey Gowdy, who authored the original report is a former federal prosecutor and a guy that Trump was tapping up to be AG ; what Trump doesn't seem to get is that their oath is to be uphold the constitution, not to service his requests. Gowdy may not have had to recuse (assuming that he didn't meet with Kislyak) but he would have done exactly what Sessions did.

Trump just doesn't get it - they are in the right, not him.

And the report tells us what we already know:

1. The investigation into Russian meddling was absolutely spot on

2. There was no spying on Trump's campaign by the Obama DOJ, period. IT DID NOT HAPPEN.
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