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Old 06-06-2018, 03:29   #2858
Chloé Palmas
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Re: Brexit discussion

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Originally Posted by Carth View Post
Could we have a vote on that?
I am just being an ass about this, but in theory we do, through our elected representatives.

I.e. after the referendum there was a GE and we each had a vote for member of parliament - they each get a deciding vote on the end bill.

We get a vote that way I suppose.

Though the Lib Dems have been proposing a referendum on the final deal...

Would you like that as a possible way for the people to approve / disapprove of the deal?

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Originally Posted by Mick View Post
It is not a fiasco leaving the EU.
It is hardly going well, is it?

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And how many polls do we get until those who don't like the result get what they want? - Democracy does not work that way, I stand by what I said, one poll mattered and we are leaving, as it should be. You cannot have another poll every couple of years.

The vote was binary, it was either leave or remain and no where in-between - leave won, so leave we must. That's Democracy and that is not an excuse either.
True, it was just a rather flippant response to your "Democracy won at the end of the day"...i.e. we can't have a poll every couple years, can we?

Kind of like two men running from a bear - no-one has to run faster than the bear. They just have to run faster than the other man....

In an ideal world, we wouldn't need a poll every other year. Just one until the side that you were backing, won. You are already at that place but I feel like you actually feel like leaving is the correct thing to do, on principle. I just took umbrage at the whole it is "Democracy" at work line - if you back it as a matter of principle then to hell with what the people think! You think that leaving the EU is the right thing to do? If the people voted remain, you would still think that leaving was the right thing to do, right? Even if a majority of people voted to leave or remain, it won't change many opinion of ideologues / those that are polarized either way and that is why I asked what your opinion on a future relationship should be. (Not just Trade, but security / space exploration / travel and migration / law and justice, etc etc etc).

Again, I took issue with your calling it a banal question which is why I didn't ask any further.

Though I do stand by my original statement of this not going well. You say that it is not a fiasco...fine, how would you describe the progress of the process though. Because the word excruciating comes to mind.
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