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Old 06-06-2018, 02:29   #2856
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Re: Brexit discussion

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Originally Posted by Chloé Palmas View Post
Oh sure, I get that.

The problem is that politicians can't on the one hand say "your vote wasn't binding because we have a Westminster system of politics where everything is fluid / malleable, so suck it up we're not leaving" but then on the other hand say to the voter "but it's time for the next election so you know that useless vote of yours, come throw it my way so I can represent you again".

As much as nobody really cares about the will of the people, it is an entirely difficult thing to say in public unless you plan on retiring / never seeking their vote again.

So then you need to start getting creative, like:

"Democracy is so important and we value your vote so very much, along with your opinion, that we are going to give you a vote on the final deal, too!"

Brexit means Brexit, right?

Then the will of the people / Democracy means just that - they should get a vote on it all in the hope that they scupper it.

Democracy is just an excuse.

And ultimately it boils down to that:

Excuses mean excuses.

It was non binding alright - just an advisory poll but ultimately another advisory poll may be the only way out of this fiasco in which politicians can save face / still look to get re-elected.

Or they could all retire I suppose.
It is not a fiasco leaving the EU.

And how many polls do we get until those who don't like the result get what they want? - Democracy does not work that way, I stand by what I said, one poll mattered and we are leaving, as it should be. You cannot have another poll every couple of years.

The vote was binary, it was either leave or remain and no where in-between - leave won, so leave we must. That's Democracy and that is not an excuse either.
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