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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
We are in the EU for the trade, not for security reasons. That is NATO's role.
If we were reliant on the EU for our secutity, I really would be worried! They have proved ineffective and they rely heavily on the UK's intelligence and leadership. There are many things that the EU negotiators might throw out of their prams, but our security expertise and co-operation is not one of them.
Clearly, you want to big up the EU, but you will have to do better than that, Andrew. They don't even think it is important to pay what they owe to NATO for their security - the UK is the only nation to take this matter seriously enough to make the level of contribution required.
No way are we relying on the EU for our security. That's just dreamland.
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Ineffective? How? The UK is very good in the intelligence and security fields and are certainly regarded as leaders in Europe along with Germany. However, surely any information is useful information? Even the smallest snippet of intelligence could be the key to saving lives so why not keep the door open to intelligence sharing?
The public is asked to be vigilant and report suspicious activity. This reporting can be useful. Just because it isn’t ‘there will be an attack by these people at this place at this time’ is that ineffective?
In addition, if GCHQ for example discovered information on something happening in the EU, surely sharing that information with our neighbours is a good thing to do?
Parliamentary report on security implications of Brexit BTW -
http://researchbriefings.files.parli...8/CBP-7798.pdf
Found the following Europol report. This is a 2017 report showing figures from 2016 and before. France, Spain and Belgium seem to be pretty good at arrests leading to conviction -
https://www.europol.europa.eu/sites/.../tesat2017.pdf