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Old 24-03-2018, 11:43   #2501
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 View Post
I've totally condemned Juncker and Trump before. They should both quit for their treacherous comments. Two bad peas in a pod! Juncker's letter looked like a job application and Trump seemed to acknowledge the hold that Putin has over him. Sickening stuff from those who are our allies.
The EU is a powerful combination of countries and it's better to have the UK in it steering it in the right direction. With the UN veto and NATO a military organisation, the EC fills a need. Hopefully something can be replicated post December 2020 as Russia knows we're stronger together.
We are in the EU for the trade, not for security reasons. That is NATO's role.

If we were reliant on the EU for our secutity, I really would be worried! They have proved ineffective and they rely heavily on the UK's intelligence and leadership. There are many things that the EU negotiators might throw out of their prams, but our security expertise and co-operation is not one of them.

Clearly, you want to big up the EU, but you will have to do better than that, Andrew. They don't even think it is important to pay what they owe to NATO for their security - the UK is the only nation to take this matter seriously enough to make the level of contribution required.

No way are we relying on the EU for our security. That's just dreamland.
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