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Old 05-03-2018, 19:14   #2318
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Re: Brexit discussion

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Originally Posted by ianch99 View Post
Belief is a good choice of word:



This will not matter if you have Faith. Faith is based on conviction rather than proof.

When Brexit plays out and those that repeat everyday that "I know what I voted for" discover that they are indeed worse off in a variety of ways, will of course accuse those who voted Remain that that they betrayed them and had we all "come together and acted positive", all would have been peachy.

There is no winning here: for those who voted to Leave and those who said Remain.

The sad part is that the sections of England who were duped into believing that their own personal situation was all the EU's fault and that Leaving will improve their own personal wealth will be disappointed. If they were asked at the time: "Would you vote Leave if it means you will be poorer in the short, medium and long term?" A lot of people would have said "No".

Anyway, the Trick was played and we are where we are. No problem really: we can all put on our Empire glasses and wave our Union Jacks. I mean, "When I was a lad, we were fine. We had no EU and we traded with most of the world. So where's the problem is just winding the clock back?"

The PM's shallow speech entreating we all "come together" was a waste of time. The country is fundamentally divided and the Tories are to blame, no one else. No excuse to blame Labour. Any political party who proposes a referendum winnable by a simple numeric majority that will radically change the structural & economic future of the country based on no plan and no ideas will be judged harshly by history.

The biggest joke of them all is when the very people who whined and complained for 40+ years about being in the EU now complain about people complaining we are Leaving ...
Well, Labour is part of the entrenched elite that so many people (not only in this country) have rejected. I can still hear snotty nosed Ed Miliband giving us all his pompous statements about how things were going to be 'because it's the right thing to do' which brought the worst out in a lot of people.

The fact that Labour would not address the mounting feeling of resentment about the Westminster and EU elite really does them no credit at all. The Conservatives have addressed it, so all credit to them for that.
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