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Old 01-03-2018, 10:43   #2216
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Originally Posted by Mr K View Post
which means what exactly??

No one knows. Even the govt,. is still having meetings/arguments with itself to try and find out. No wonder the EU is confused by our negotiating position, our ministers are saying different things on different days !
It means we leave the EU.

It means we leave the single market.

It means we leave the customs union.

The negotiations are about how we achieve those things, which is the detail the government is about to submit to the EU, to amend the dog's dinner the EU Commission have made in their document.

We are looking for a trade and services deal giving us tariff free access to EU markets, incorporating a customs agreement to achieve just that.

There will be no more free movement of people and we will be free of EU legislation.

That's about it. We've all heard this already, so I don't know why remainers are feigning this confusion.

Brexit means Brexit, and that's it.

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Originally Posted by Mr K View Post
Oh I don't know, he likes cricket so can't be that bad
John Major also likes warm beer, which makes him a bit weird in my book.

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Originally Posted by denphone View Post
And he talks more common sense then this current lot who have no clue which way they are travelling and are led by a weak incapacitated leader who cannot lead strongly but is being led by others.
Tell yourself that if you like, Den, but you're just following the herd with this.

The government are putting their proposals to the EU this week. Leaving it until now to put these cards on the table is a deliberate negotiating tactic. Better to let the EU tell us how they see it first, so we can pull it to bits than have them pull ours to bits. Our negotiating team will show the problems with the EU stance and we will correct it and polish it with our proposals.

This was the correct way to do it. Had we put our document out first, they would have torn it to pieces without having any sensible proposals of their own. This year, you will start to see everything coming together and there will be egg on the faces of all those who said it couldn't be done.

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Originally Posted by Mr K View Post
Well he, along with every living Prime Minister, including Theresa, campaigned to remain in the EU. They must know something about how our trade works. Ever since the vote our Govt. has been in chaos.
I can't speak for Theresa, but I would imagine that she hoped to reform the EU from within, but the public were not prepared to wait that long. Cameron's gambit to get that reform failed spectacularly, and that did it for me and I think for everyone who voted Leave.

Theresa is bowing to the will of the electorate, and surely that is why we expect referendum results to be honoured.
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