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**Hugh** · 22-02-2018, 08:07

Giving Teachers guns is treating a symptom, not a cause.

After Grenfell, we didn’t suggest putting fire extinguishers on the corner of every street; when car crash deaths rose, we made cars safer (crumple zones, non burst fuel tanks, seat belts, air bags, etc.), we didn’t suggest all civvies should receive simple paramedic training to help after the crash. After 9/11, airport security got stricter, it wasn’t suggested that they arm air stewards/stewardesses (and I’m not talking about Sky Marshals - they’ve always had those).

To be competent with a firearm, you need regular training, and that’s just target practice - trying to shoot an individual in the midst of many others makes it even more difficult; How would the First Responders know who was the bad guy, and who were the teachers? How would the firearms be kept secure when not in use? How many teachers would need to be armed? (There were 2 armed guards at the Florida school). What’s to stop a pupil knocking the teacher out and taking their gun?

Armed teachers would probably only intervene after the shooting starts - wouldn’t it be better if the shooting didn’t start.

The saying ‘it takes a good guy with a gun to stop a bad guy with a gun’ was said by someone trying to sell two guns.

I understand the US citizens strong feelings about the 2nd Amendment, but if they insist on needing guns so they can be a ‘militia’, they need to be a ‘well regulated militia’.

22-02-2018, 08:07	#125
Hugh laeva recumbens anguis Cable Forum Team Join Date: Jun 2006 Age: 68 Services: Premiere Collection Posts: 43,540	Re: Florida Shooting: 17 Students Shot dead in another Mass Shooting in the U.S Giving Teachers guns is treating a symptom, not a cause. After Grenfell, we didn’t suggest putting fire extinguishers on the corner of every street; when car crash deaths rose, we made cars safer (crumple zones, non burst fuel tanks, seat belts, air bags, etc.), we didn’t suggest all civvies should receive simple paramedic training to help after the crash. After 9/11, airport security got stricter, it wasn’t suggested that they arm air stewards/stewardesses (and I’m not talking about Sky Marshals - they’ve always had those). To be competent with a firearm, you need regular training, and that’s just target practice - trying to shoot an individual in the midst of many others makes it even more difficult; How would the First Responders know who was the bad guy, and who were the teachers? How would the firearms be kept secure when not in use? How many teachers would need to be armed? (There were 2 armed guards at the Florida school). What’s to stop a pupil knocking the teacher out and taking their gun? Armed teachers would probably only intervene after the shooting starts - wouldn’t it be better if the shooting didn’t start. The saying ‘it takes a good guy with a gun to stop a bad guy with a gun’ was said by someone trying to sell two guns. I understand the US citizens strong feelings about the 2nd Amendment, but if they insist on needing guns so they can be a ‘militia’, they need to be a ‘well regulated militia’. __________________ Thank you for calling the Abyss. If you have called to scream, please press 1 to be transferred to the Void, or press 2 to begin your stare. If my post is in bold and this colour, it's a Moderator Request. Last edited by Hugh; 22-02-2018 at 08:24.