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Old 12-02-2018, 11:31   #2029
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Re: Brexit discussion
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Originally Posted by Kursk View Post
The EU are starting to get the jitters. Bullying the UK will not work. Even Sir Foghorn Clegghorn is singing a different tune.

Our negotiation tactics are doing fine. We'll tell the EU what we want when we're ready.
Yes, it's beginning to dawn on EU countries that they need GB. Barnier is stuck in a rut with his attitude and needs to step up.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 View Post
Every civil servant I've met has been pro-Brexit. Yes, they hated Farage but they saw Brexit as creating more jobs for British civil servants. If anything, their motivations would be to encourage Brexit, not discourage it!
The forecasts we're seeing now aren't Project Fear. They've been scrutinised millions of times over by a Brexit-focused Government. We're also not seeing contradictory forecasts from other organisations. All are saying that Brexit means a reduction in growth and that's what we're seeing now as the Eurozone outpaces us. Maybe you'd Prefer Bill at No. 35 to do your cataract operation on his day off from Tesco. I'd prefer to trust experts if I can understand their logic.
Optimism on its own doesn't change the facts of geography and economics. Simply saying that because Project Fear has not come to pass, all economists' predictions will always be wrong is flawed.That clearly isn't the case as they would all be out of jobs.
If every Civil Servant you've met is pro-Brexit, you must associate with a very discrete group of Civil Servants!

You may be right that at least some forecasts are not designed deliberately to put fear into the minds of voters, but I am afraid they are not taking full account of the opportunities to be gained from Brexit. Furthermore, they are not taking account of the fact that there will be a minimal adverse impact on trade if we get the deal our government wants.

Despite all Brexit forecasts so far, there is little evidence that any of them are anywhere near right, and the siren voices who proclaimed a major impact immediately following the vote to leave have been proved hilariously wrong.

I find no reason at all to believe that the economy will suffer post Brexit. The EU isn't that great.
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